The PlayStation 5 will be released in 2020 or sooner, as per our current predictions (see below). This release date countdown is based on careful review of historical and current trends, current news, credible leaks, research, and gaming industry data. The PS5 is expected to dominate once again.
|PS1 Release Date||Saturday - December 3, 1994|
|Time Between||5 Years 3 months – 1918 days|
|PS2 Release Date||Saturday - March 4, 2000|
|Time Between||6 years and 8 months – 2444 days|
|PS3 Release Date||Saturday - November 11, 2006|
|Time Between||7 Years, 5 days – 2562 days|
|PS4 Release Date||Friday - Nov 15, 2013 (XBox beat - 7 days)|
|Time Between||7 years & 1 day - 2558 days total|
|PS4 Pro Release||Thursday - Nov 10, 2016 (XBox X beat - 362 days)|
|Time Between||2 years, 11 months, 28 days - 1093 days total|
|PS5 Release Date||November 15, 2020|
When is the playstation 5 coming out?
The best estimate for the PS5 Release is November of 2020. The PS2 came 5 years 3 months after the PS1, the PS3 came 6 years 8 months after the PS2 and the PS4 came 7 years and 5 days after the PS3. Following this trend we would expect the PS5 to Release in 2020 or even later. Many argue that the PS5 will actually come out sooner. With the release of the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro, major executives like Ubisoft's CEO believe that it will be another 2 years before we see the PS5, and that's a minimum. This would put the PS5 out right in line with our predictions.
When did Sony start working on the PS4?
If you guessed 5 years before the launch of the PS4 you are correct. Mark Cerny the lead system architect for the PS4 was once quoted as saying "the development of a next-gen platform started about five years ago." The concepts began swirling around as early as 2008! This was only a mere two years into the PS3 life cycle. Interestingly enough, Sony partnered with Bungie, the developers of Halo and Destiny, to design the PS4 controller so that it would be more beneficial when being used in first person shooters.
In 2012 development kits started going out to developers. These were bare bones PC rigs with the new AMD Accelerated Processing Unit chipset included. They were codenamed "Orbis." Sony officially announced the PS4 in February of 2013 at a special event, thus revealing its existence to the world.
How Does PS4 Pro Factor into This?
The PS4 Pro is one of two consoles that are redefining the way we think about generations of gaming consoles. Between this and the Xbox 2 (Project Scorpio), we're seeing new consoles that bring us increased power and performance, but they're not consider next generation machines.
That's a confusing concept for gamers, and it's one that we're all still trying to collectively wrap our heads around. The PS4 Pro released in November of 2016 to positive reviews, but everyone was left asking how this affects the future of gaming, and where original PS4 owners stand.
The chief architect for Sony, Mark Cerny, sat down with The Verge to talk about the system in more detail. During this interview we got some hints about how Sony is moving forward into the future of gaming.
For starters, we found out that, while the PS4 Pro is indeed 2.28 times more powerful than the PS4, it doesn't have a new GPU. Instead, it's a double-sized version of the original which can be turned on an off depending on the support for Pro's extra power on PS4 games.
The biggest qualms with the PS4 Pro lie within it's lack of UHD Blu-Ray support, and the fact that games don't always render in native 4K. In many cases, they come very close, but enthusiasts want nothing less then native support. We all assume that 4K should be the focus, but what if VR is the future? We always assume that televisions are the way we'll play games forever, but anyone who has played VR knows that this could change.
As of now, Sony is very steadfast in their decision to not have any PS4 Pro exclusive titles. In fact, if a game isn't patched or made with PS4 Pro support, then it plays just like it did on the PS4 since the extra GPU is shut down in these instances.
Cerny said that Sony has put "a very high premium on not splitting the user base in that fashion." What happens in the future when a game is made for Pro, but doesn't run well on the original PS4? Cerny didn't speak to that scenario, but suffice to say, we're already seeing performance gaps.
Take The Last Guardian, for example. This game released in December of 2016 and immediately, there were reports of the game running significantly better on PS4 Pro. In an odd twist, the game runs best at 1080p on the Pro, with some minor drops in 4K and more significant frame rate problems on the standard PS4.
As you can imagine, this has raised questions about Sony's promise to ensure that PS4 Pro games, while playing better, would not result in the original PS4 performing them poorly. It's a testament to how quickly technology is moving forward.
Then we look at something like PlayStation VR. Having played VR titles on both the PS4 and PS4 Pro, I can say that there's a noticeable difference between the two. People were shocked when Sony was able to get VR working on a PS4's hardware, but with Pro, we're looking at much more suitable hardware for virtual reality games.
Sony's lofty ideas, combined with the creative vision of developers, results in a need for more and more power. That, combined with console gamers wanting something similar to PC quality, is why the PS4 Pro exists in the first place.
Of course, Mark Cerny said in the aforementioned interview that the Pro wasn't designed solely for VR. Instead, he said that Sony is simply asking developers to "Take advantage. We'd like for them to take a look at what the hardware can do, and do something with it." Developers can easily increase the refresh rate, add more detail, and also increase the resolution of the image to an extent.
In addition, Cerny said that Sony left out the 4K Blu-Ray player because they believe that "streaming is the future." As of right now, this applies solely to video content, but could this mean that Sony wants to stream games as well? This would support our theories on PS5 possibly incorporating a game streaming solution.
Now that the PS4 Pro is here, it will be interesting to see how this changes the landscape of the industry. Once Project Scorpio/Xbox 2 is released, we'll see even more about what this competition could mean for the industry.
One thing is certain, Sony will use this system to inform their decisions for PS5 and ensure that the PS5 will do what the PS4 Pro won't or couldn't.
Finally, let's not forget that in an interview between Shuhei Yoshia and Gameswelt.TV, the President of Sony's Worldwide Studios said that the "new high-end PS4 is still PS4, so the life cycle is not going to be shorter."
This is yet another piece of evidence that points to our 2020 release date.
Could the PS5 Release sooner? 2018?
While trends would dictate that the release date is in 2020, there have been signs that the PS5 could be coming to us much sooner. As early as 2017 in fact! There isn't any concrete evidence to suggest this yet, but we know that Sony is working on the PS5, and we know that the visions of both PlayStation and its developers are moving faster than technology allows.
Take PlayStation VR for example. Once we attach a virtual reality headset to the PS4, we're limiting the power it can output because we now have this new method of input that requires its own percentage of the PS4's power.
While the PS4 is far more powerful than the PS3, it still pales in comparison to the top-of-the-line PC builds out there. Without the ability to consistently upgrade the hardware as games become bigger and more demanding, the PS4 is going to run out of power sooner than later. We may not make it to 2020 with the power that it has in comparison to the games developers want to make. Unfortunately, Sony didn't create the PS4 with a long-term solution for hardware demands. It is what it is and once that juice runs out, they're going to need something better.
This has already been expressed by Shuhei Yoshida, the President of Worldwide Studios for Sony Computer Entertainment. In a quote that you can read in one our news articles below, he said that the PS5 depends on developer demand. This, combined with recent reports that AMD is working on their next chip sets means that the new console is not only being considered, it's most likely being engineered as we speak.
We also have support for a 2018 release date from analyst Damian Thong. In a tweet by Wall Street Journal's Takashi Mochizuki:
PS4 Pro? Wait, what about PS5? Macquarie's Damian Thong who correctly predicted PS4 slim and Pro says PS5 may arrive in 2nd half of 2018.
— Takashi Mochizuki (@mochi_wsj) September 8, 2016
Damian correctly predicted the PS4 Pro's existence prior to the announcement, so he has a good track record. He also predicts that PS5 will come in the second half of 2018. His most recent prediction comes from an analysis that was featured on Barrons. In this report, he claimed that Sony would experience all-time high profits for the fiscal year ending in March, 2019.
The result of this prediction was his claim that Sony would release a 10-teraflop PS5 console. While 10 teraflops is certainly possible with today's high-end PC tech, that's a big prediction. It would also mean the PS4 Pro only gets a year or so in the limelight before the PS5 releases.
It doesn't seem like a plausible scenario, especially when Sony said PS4 Pro will be their new console for the foreseeable future, but be sure to let us know what you think in the comments below! Read on to learn more about the price predictions we have in place.
The Price of the PS5 Revealed
I know we're all excited here, but if there's one thing people want to know about new consoles, it's the price. Between the PS3 and the PS4, Sony changed their minds to the tune of $200 dollars. It's clear that gamers don't want consoles to spike in price, but they also want power, so where does the balance lie? Join us as we examine the price of the PS5!
The Latest PS5 Release Date News
To predict the launch date of the PlayStation 5, we will need to remove ourselves from the river of time’s rapid currents and emerge onto its shores. We will become quiet observers, occupying for a brief moment a dimension unknown to us. We have come back from our journey, the facts are below. The prediction is in place, and the stage is set for a new generation beginning on November 15th, 2020.
- Ubisoft CEO: PS5 is at Least 2 Years Away
On an investor call, Ubisoft's own CEO Yves Guillemot said that he believes the PS5 is at least two years away from releasing. His logic is grounded in the fact that both the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro released recently. This is, of course, a prediction, but it's safe to say that a huge publisher like Ubisoft would know about the PS5 in advance because they would most likely be doing launch titles. That would put the PS5 right inside of our predictions.
- Sony Has Confirmed the PS5!.
PlayStation's boss, Shawn Layden, confirmed in an interview that there will indeed be more PlayStation consoles. The PS5 is going to happen, it's just a matter of time. This isn't the first time Sony has toyed with the idea of a next generation console, but it is the strongest confirmation we've received thus far. He did say that the PS4 is breaking new ground for Sony, so that could affect the plans going forward, but the company is going to produce more PlayStation consoles. Find out more in our full article!
- Just Cause Dev Working on a Next-Gen Project
Avalanche Studios recently opened up a position at their studio for someone to work on a project being developed for "both current and next gen platforms." It's possible they are simply future-proofing an engine, but other rumors point to them working on an unannounced AAA title for next-gen consoles. Could this be a PS5 launch title? Check out the full article for more info!
- GT Sport Could Run at 8K on PS5!
In a recent tour of the studio behind Gran Turismo, Finder.com reported that the developer is already creating cars that are over-specced for the PS4 Pro. They are indeed preparing for the graphics we'll see on the PS5. The series creator even believes the PS5 will run GT Sport at 8K resolution! If a major developer like this is already planning for PS5, that can only mean that the future is coming sooner than we think!
- Michael Pachter: Sony is Waiting on Scorpio
Infamous analyst, Michael Pachter, has predicted that Sony is waiting to see how Project Scorpio does before they finalize their PS5 plans. Depending on the outcome, they could change their timelines, according to him. Damian Thong, another major analyst we've discussed before on the site, seems to think Sony will release their PS5 console in 2018 to record-breaking profits! Are we in agreement on this? Take a look at our full breakdown of his predictions in the full article!
- PS5 Confirmed by a Sony Executive: Coming in 2018?
A Sony executive recently said that we'll be certainly seeing more PlayStation consoles in the future. That's a PS5 confirmation if I ever heard one! In other news, an analyst is also predicting that PS5 will be here in the second half of 2018. He was right before about the PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro, so is he on to something? Find out more in the full article!
- PS5 Future in Doubt?
- Will the PS4 Be Sony's Last Console?
- AMD Promising Five Times the Power on PS5
AMD is making some bold claims about their chipsets for the next generation of consoles. According to their projections, the PS5 will be five times more powerful than the PS4! This is based on projections for their company's chipsets and their roadmap for development into the future. It seems like a big jump, but it would warrant the PS5's existence. How is this possible you ask? Find out in our full article!
- PlayStation Hiring For Work on a "Next Generation Gaming System"
A job posting appeared on the PlayStation website looking to hire a senior programmer. Are they hiring for the PS5? This could also be a job posting that was meant for work on the PS4 Pro, but from the description, it sounds like they would be working on a new operating system.
- Is PlayStation VR Holding Back the PS5 Release Date?
Could it be that the PS5 is already close to completion, and Sony is holding back to try and make the PS4 last as long as possible with the addition of a VR headset? If we combine this thinking with the release of the PS4 Pro, then we know Sony isn't ready to unveil the PS5. Are they waiting for technology, or are they worried consumers won't accept a new console this early?
- New Rumors Suggest PS5 Will Use 3D Stacked RAM
Now that researchers at Rice University have discovered how to create 3D Stacked RAM in a fraction of the time and cost, rumors are swirling that Sony will jump at this opportunity to use the technology in the PS5. Both Sony and Microsoft are always looking for ways to one-up each other in terms of system power. 3D stacked RAM would certainly give PS5 an edge over Project Scorpio (Xbox 2). Check out our full article for all the details!
- Nintendo Begins Working on a New Console, What About Sony?
With Nintendo officially confirming the existence of a new console to replace the Wii, rumors are out in the wild about how powerful it will be. Is Sony going to strike first with the PS5? Combine this with the existence of Xbox 2 (Project Scorpio) and Sony is in quite the position. Even with PS4 Pro coming out in November 2016, we have to think about the long term competition. Find out more in the full article!
- PS5 Release Date is early!
A recent AMD presentation talked about the possibility of shorter console cycles. Does this mean we'll see the PS5 earlier than expected? It's possible, but with the PS4 Pro announced, it could be that AMD was referring to this recently unveiled console. Sony doesn't seem too keen on shortening the console life cycles either.
Sony's President, Shuhei Yoshida, was talking about PS5 in an interview. When asked about the existence of PS5, he said "you mean if..." which makes us all wonder if Sony has stalled production on the PS5. Why would he refer to Sony's new console like this? It's either a red herring, or the worst news we've gotten in a long time. Find out more in the full article!
Michael Patcher, known for making bold and sometimes ridiculous claims about the gaming industry, made the statement that this current console cycle would be the last of its kind. Sony's next move in the world of gaming, according to him, will be a cloud-based experience akin to services like Netflix, but for gaming. Is it truly possible that the PS4 is the last console we'll ever see from Sony in the traditional sense of the term? Check out the full article to find out!
Why People Get Angry (or Don't) about Shorter Life Cycles
Game consoles represent huge investments for consumers. Between the games, the accessories, and the subscriptions, it's no wonder people get angry when we bring up the concept of yet another console. Boy oh boy, though, do people get angry! If you try to bring up the subject on forums like Reddit, expect to get sufficiently "ripped a new one," as it were.
People are protective of their investments, which results in kind of a hostile and hush-hush environment for people like us who dare to dream. What's interesting though is the double standard that exists in the world of technology. Bear with me for a moment here, let's consider something:
- A new iPhone or Samsung Galaxy phone comes out each year and people rush to buy it, no questions asked.
- A new console is hinted at, but won't be out for several years, and people lose their minds
What's the deal? I get that these two examples cater to different types of consumers, but seriously? The level of acceptance versus the level of hostility is just insane. Here's the problem though: technology outpaces consoles insanely fast. Anyone who is a PC gamer will know, just when you think you have the greatest rig, a new GPU or CPU comes out and suddenly you're obsolete again.
The PS4's hardware is amazing compared to the PS3, but it's already outdated by a long shot when you compare it to modern gaming PC's. Since you can't swap out parts in the PS4 or in any home console for that matter, you need to replace it sooner to keep up with technology.
That's the hard way of looking at it, but Sony has a more level-headed approach. I'm of course referring to Shuhei Yoshida's quote regarding the PS5 when he said that developers will decide the right time to release it. If they don't have the power they need, then it's time for PS5. Classic cryptic Sony talk, but a solid outlook.
Of course, if you ask the Sony President on the American side, Andrew House, he has a different quote: "Not giving hard numbers, but the best guidance that I think I can offer based on the landscape we see right now, is that we have high hopes that the PlayStation 4 will exceed the overall life cycle of the PlayStation 3. It remains a significant question mark as to whether this will approach or exceed that of PlayStation 2."
That's going to be a tall order with the way technology is progressing. Taking the two quotes from each of these Sony executives, they almost sound like they're at odds with one another as to what they want from the PS4 life cycle. Obviously they want their product to remain relevant, but it's only a matter of time before developers will want that extra power.
So what's the alternative? Build a better console faster than before? No, probably not. Instead, it's likely that Sony will need to adapt to a more service-oriented future that turns the home console into more of a set-top box like Amazon Fire TV or Roku, or even Apple TV.
If games took the form of apps and streamed to your television from cloud servers, then Sony would have no need to release new consoles. Instead they would sell the games through these streaming boxes and possibly offer a subscription like PlayStation Now as well.
As it stands, the PS4 is selling extremely well and beating out the competition. With factors like PlayStation VR and the rising tide of new technology though, it's going to run out of runway sooner than later. The developers will need more power and angry fans or not, we'll need to start talking about the PS5.
Playstation Life Cycles
Looking at the cycles of past PlayStations can we begin to chart a course of when we should expect to see the PlayStation 5! Back in 1994, Sony unleashed the PlayStation on the world, a bastion of high-end technology that changed gaming as we know it forever. It was only six years later that it outdid itself with the PlayStation 2, a system that many still believe is the crowning pinnacle of the PlayStation brand. It made history as one of the best-selling video game consoles ever.
Following a pattern, six years later the PlayStation 3 was released, ushering in an era of online games and networks that once again changed the face of gaming forever. Then came the PS4, which blew its rival the Xbox One out of the water. PS4 sales going into 2017 were looking awesome with an almost 2-to-1 ratio in Sony's favor.
And then of course, you have the PS4 Pro, which sends everything into uncertainty. For the first time, a new and more powerful console has entered the fold in the middle of a generation. Thus far, it seems like fans are adopting it pretty quickly for the graphical boosts and 4K support, not to mention the enhanced PlayStation VR experience.
Our PS5 Predictions
We are continually updating this page with new information as it breaks that could alter our current predictions. In 2013 we came within a few days of predicting the actual PS4 release date, no one else came closer. We plan on having the same high accuracy for the PS5 release date. Thus far we've been hitting you with hard facts and rumors from other news sources, but we as gamers feel the need to throw in our own predictions as well. At this stage in the game, the more ideas we have, the better, because that drives us towards the ultimate goal of pinpointing the exact date of the PS5 release.
Currently, the PS4 has sold over 20 million units worldwide and is leading over Microsoft by a large margin. There's no signs that it's slowing down either.
While we do acknowledge the fact that the PS4 hardware is going to run out quickly because of its inability to be upgraded, we also point to the growth that he PS3 experienced in its final years. Compare a launch title like Resistance: Fall of Man to the original release of The Last of Us and you'll see that developers clearly saw ways to get more horsepower out of the system as the years went on.
Game developers are innovative and creative people. Yes, there will be a demand for power, but no, that won't stop them from finding ways to use what they have. What I'm saying is that our 2020 release date prediction for the PS5 is far more accurate that 2017 because the PS4 Pro was released in holiday of 2016 and Sony plans to have it become the standard for the foreseeable future.
I think Sony is already running tests on the PS5 and I think it will be ready, or at least playable by 2018, but I also think Sony is going to play their cards close to their chest.
If the PS4 sales plummet or developers simply can't do what they want with the hardware available, then yes, Sony will unveil the PS5 to invigorate the market and build hype, but without the need for a new console in terms of business and innovation, Sony will keep things under wraps until the time is right.
For now, we have the PS4 Pro and PlayStation VR, both of which are riding high in the eyes of the consumer. They are both young, with a lot of games ahead of them.
I would like to play devil's advocate for a moment though. What if the PS5 is coming as soon as 2018? We've already discussed how the PS5 will most likely be a cloud-based on console so what if Sony is already testing the market for such a product?
We all know about PlayStation Now and if you don't, it's a streaming service like Netflix, but for games. Sony could be using this service as a testing ground to see not only if the public would support a cloud-based system, but if the demand is there. It's not an entirely far-fetched concept.
As it stands, we're going to keep scouring the internet for more clues, rumors, and news to keep this page as accurate as possible.
And now it is your turn. When do you think the PS5 is coming? What predictions do you have? Tell us in the comments below!
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